What is this powerful hold the Pentagon has over our “civilian” government? Since Clinton’s presidency both parties have felt a need to look tough on defense; Biden and Trump competed for military support. That may be changing as America sees new heroes, those fighting the pandemic. More of us realize pouring $6 trillion into a failed war on terrorism hasn’t made us safer. On this show William D Hartung Director of the Arms and Security Program at the Center for International Policy says how the military complex is selling China as the new threat du jour but has no real policy. Perhaps the tide is turning where we can build real national security.