With the pandemic throwing everything up in the air, there are new opportunities for us to shape the way it all lands. Going back to the old “normal” is not the only option. On this show Joe Ryle a leader of the 4 Day movement in the UK, reveals what their research has shown. A four day, 32 hour work week is already yielding better mental health as it increases productivity. Businesses support it, as more leisure time helps the economy and boosts overall happiness. It reduces our carbon footprints, and it also helps strengthen families, with unpaid but essential work more able to be shared. It can happen on this side of the Atlantic too, if we make it so.