Both establishment parties are competing to be toughest on the Ukraine crisis. But the fact is America’s founders were solidly non-interventionist. Our constant search for new monsters to destroy; where has that gotten us? More peace and justice? Our republic and democracy better preserved? On this show Jacob Hornberger, president of the Future of Freedom Foundation argues that as the power of the national security state grows, Americans lose more of our rights and liberties. And we are demonstrably less secure. This moment is, he argues, a time for introspection.