The status quo is not getting the job done. People want populism and Trump ain’t it. Then again the Democratic establishment isn’t it either. The Trumpists want us to hate and fear those on the FDR left. Is it working? On this show The Nation’s DC bureau chief Chris Lehman notes that 2024 casual Trump voters are now disenchanted, but that the tech oligarchy remains powerful in both establishment parties. To win, Democrats need to give people something to vote for, not just against. Listen to what he has to say.