It’s the bedrock of who we are today. But to believe there was agreement among the “Founding Fathers,” that they aimed to to replace plutocracy with democracy is just wrong. In this lively interview, historian Woody Holton reveals fascinating little-known facts from his new book Liberty is Sweet. Some of our “Great Men” vehemently opposed democracy which threatened to undermine their power. Holton says toxic masculinity almost lost the war. And he talks about the amazing founding mothers, from Abigail Adams to the heroic laundresses. It all goes on today.