There is in fact a lush garden of American greatness and it is not MAGA. Though less well known, there is a proud history of successful dissent which does make America great. Military power and straight white male domination is not greatness, it’s weakness. With us today is Georgetown history professor and author of some important books on the power and history of great American dissent, Michael Kazin. He says; “Organizing is key: it means going to people who don’t agree with you and finding ways to get them to your side.” For greatness, see that history.